Interview with Lisa Medved author of 'The Engraver's Secret'

Interview with Lisa Medved - author of 'The Engraver's Secret'

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About the author:

Lisa Medved is the author of The Engraver’s Secret, a novel with a dual timeline set in modern-day and seventeenth-century Antwerp. The Engraver’s Secret is a story about family secrets and father-daughter relationships, the consequences of betrayal and prejudice, and the challenges of learning to trust and forgive.

The Engraver’s Secret was published in English by HarperCollins Australia on 3 April 2024 in Australia, New Zealand, UK and Ireland. It was translated into Dutch and published as De Graveurby Horizon Publishing in February 2022 in the Netherlands and Belgium.

Lisa is currently working on her second novel, which is set in fin-de-siècle Vienna and post-WWI London, focusing on the art of Gustav Klimt and two women searching for where they belong in the world.

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INTERVIEW

What inspired you to write The Engraver’s Secret?

The idea for The Engraver’s Secret came to me about ten years ago when I visited the Rubenshuis in Antwerp, which is the former home of Baroque painter Peter Paul Rubens. An engraving by his chief engraver, Lucas Vorsterman, was on display alongside a brief description, which suggested the two men were close then had a falling out.

Intrigued, I did some research and came upon a little-known story about a disagreement over who owned the original copper engraving plates and who had the right to reproduce the images. Intellectual property wasn’t widely considered in early seventeenth century Flanders. I began dreaming up a story about lost seventeenth-century treasures and a modern-day academic trying to discover their whereabouts. 

Please give us an overview of the story.

The Engraver’s Secret is an art thriller set in Antwerp with a dual timeline, featuring two women, a mysterious map, and a family secret spanning four hundred years.

The seventeenth-century timeline features a girl called Antonia – shown on the front cover – who is the daughter of an engraver who works in the studio of the famous artist Peter Paul Rubens. Antonia is drawn into the life of the studio and the Rubens family and soon realises that secrets are being kept and people are betraying one another. She begins to realise that she can’t even trust her own father.

The modern-day timeline is revealed through the eyes of an art academic called Charlotte, who arrives in Antwerp and quickly becomes embroiled in a 400-year-old art mystery while trying to make a name for herself in a highly competitive field. At the same time, she meets her father for the first time. Like Antonia, Charlotte discovers that people are keeping secrets and betraying one another, and no one can be trusted.

Antonia and Charlotte are strong, determined women with unique challenges. Tell us a bit about each of these characters. Include their qualities and obstacles.

As I began writing The Engraver’s Secret, I was keen for one of the major themes to focus on the constraints placed upon women, and the challenges women face in controlling their lives.

Antonia was an unusual woman for her time. Most women in that period, whether from the lower-, middle- or upper-classes, were expected to marry, bear children, care for their families, run the household, and attend church. This was their duty in life. Women who didn’t marry would often enter a religious order, such as a convent or begijnhof. A very small number of women would embark on a career of their own, such as the painters Clara Peeters and Artemisia Gentileschi, who I mentioned in the story.

I created Antonia to be bold and ambitious, encouraged by her father to master foreign languages and academic subjects and think for herself, and not merely learn how to manage a household and be dependent on the men in her life. Which is ironic because she was financially and legally dependent on her father, no matter how much her father encouraged her to think of herself as independent, at least in the first half of the story.

Despite encouraging Antonia to study academic subjects, her parents still controlled her life, including chores, pastimes and prospective bridegrooms. As she approached adulthood, she was directed along a path toward marriage, while her artistic skills and yearnings were regarded as frivolous. She was not permitted membership to the artists’ guild because of her gender.

Throughout the story, Antonia struggles between being bold and ambitious, and being vulnerable and timid. I tried to focus on this same tension when I created the character of Charlotte for the modern part of the story.

Working in a male-dominated field, Charlotte grapples to make a name for herself and be successful in the workplace. Her academic mother had encouraged Charlotte to be assertive and wary about trusting others. Charlotte has contended with so many misogynistic colleagues and male figures who have let her down in her life that she has built a wall around herself, and struggles to trust anyone.

Charlotte wants to be daring, ambitious and independent, but treads a fine line with being labelled reckless, aggressive and aloof. A turning point in the first part of the story is when her work colleague, Miles, tells her she is “difficult”. Ironically, if a male peer had conducted himself in the same way as Charlotte, he probably would have been hailed as a daring go-getter.

Learning how to trust others, balancing ambition with integrity, and discovering her own path to control her destiny are major lessons that both Charlotte and Antonia learn during the story.

Who is your favourite male figure in The Engraver Secret and why?

SĂ©bastien Sterck is a wonderfully complex character, who is perceived differently by various people in the story. Some regard him as supportive and helpful, willing to help others and expecting nothing in return. Others consider him aloof and secretive of his private life, hyper-focused on his career, and showing little empathy towards others.

I enjoyed experimenting with this discrepancy and using it to build tension in the story so that readers were constantly asking themselves the level of honesty behind SĂ©bastien’s actions and words, and whether he could be trusted. 

What two things did you discover during your research that amazed you? Did you take any special trips to learn about the topics you cover in The Engraver’s Secret?

During the seven to eight years I spent writing The Engraver’s Secret, I completed masses of research before I started writing and also during the writing process. The search engine on my computer was constantly open, along with etymology websites to check the accuracy of words and objects for specific times or places. For example, if cobalt blue pigment wasn’t invented until 1803, then I didn’t use the term in the seventeenth-century timeline, but rather used the more accurate terms of ultramarine or smalt.

Given that I was constantly checking the etymology of words, I was amazed how much languages have evolved over the centuries. If I wanted to be 100 percent historically accurate, the seventeenth-century dialogue would have been completely different, sounding something akin to Geoffrey Chaucer or Constantijn Huygens. It would have been very difficult to understand, unless you had a PhD in European linguistics.

Although I studied European history at university, I didn’t become familiar with the important role of begijnhofs in Flanders until I began researching my book. These religious complexes, designed to house lay religious women in a community, became enormously popular from the thirteenth century in Western Europe. Antwerp has a particularly well-preserved Begijnhof, which is now used as private housing. For the purposes of my story I used some artistic licence to create a group of modern-day begijnen living there for my story. The Begijnhof is such a peaceful place, which contrasted perfectly with my characters who become caught up in a dangerous search for lost treasures.

I visited Antwerp numerous times while researching and writing The Engraver’s Secret to become familiar with its major historic sites, such as the former home and studio of the artist Rubens (now the Rubenshuis museum), the Plantijn-Moretus printing museum, major churches and the catherdral, the Begijnhof, the Brabo fountain in Grote Markt. It was fun to learn about the origins of the name Antwerp and even the hand-shaped biscuits that were popularised in the city.

There are two timelines set in Antwerp: modern day and seventeenth century. What advantages and difficulties did this pose in the writing of The Engraver’s Secret?

I’ve always enjoyed reading dual timeline novels because it allows me to experience a story from two different perspectives. It’s like being at a party where you interact with guests in the garden, then you move inside the house to chat with other people, and discover the two conversations are related. Different people, different viewpoints, same story. Or are they? Perhaps they’re different stories, but with strong connections.

Experimenting with such interconnections is one of the reasons I enjoy writing dual timelines. It allows me to pose questions in one timeline then see how they relate to another, reveal the actions and motives of one character then link them to another character, years or centuries apart.

Keeping the reader interested in two stories simultaneously is the main challenge when writing a dual timeline story. Each timeline needs enough forward momentum and pacing, enough links between the two stories, and enough questions about the past and future, to make the novel intriguing. At the same time, there can’t be too many questions, otherwise the reader may become confused or overwhelmed.

I wrote one timeline in full, then the second, which allowed me to completely focus on one set of characters and era at a time. In subsequent drafts, I pieced together the two stories like a jigsaw puzzle, providing links between certain events, characters, themes, locations, even objects.

While writing, I developed a large spreadsheet to help organise the various parts of the story and show their connections. The spreadsheet included a brief description of each chapter, which characters are present or mentioned, key themes, relevant dates or times, focal objects – for example, a seventeenth-century map folio – and also the questions posed at the close of each chapter. These include mystery questions about events that have occurred in the past, and suspense questions about what may happen next. Hopefully, by the end of the story, the main questions are resolved.

I also rely on trusted beta readers and editors who read the manuscript with fresh eyes and point out any parts of the story which may be confusing or too complicated, or places where the links are either too vague or too obvious. Finding the balance is the main challenge.

Photo by Harry Fabel

What is the main theme of The Engraver’s Secret?

The Engraver’s Secret focuses on the various themes of trust and betrayal, secrets, family connections, ownership and women directing their own lives.

The main theme of trust and betrayal focuses on the idea that allowing yourself to be vulnerable is often the first step to trusting someone, and experiencing betrayal can result in struggling to trust again.

Charlotte finds it difficult to trust others because of how she was betrayed by people she loves. Antonia trusts her father, but when he betrays her trust, their relationship falters. Before Charlotte and Antonia can move forward in a positive direction in their lives, they must learn to forgive past betrayals and allow themselves to trust again. The story poses the question: what do you do when the weight of betrayal grows too heavy to bear?

Please explain the difference between a copier and an engraver.

Relating to the seventeenth-century part of the story, a copier – also known as a copyist – was a person who reproduced an artwork, often using the same medium (e.g. paint, pencil, chalk, ink) as the original to make as accurate a likeness as possible. Apprentices were often tasked with making a copy of a particular artwork to practise and perfect their artistic skills; or to make a duplicate of an artwork, which has been sold, so that a copy could be retained in the studio as a reference tool or to promote the work of the studio or the master artist.

By contrast, an engraver used a fine metal tool called a burin to scratch the surface of a copper plate to create an image, which is then inked and pressed through a printing press to make a reversed picture. If an exact image of the original artwork was required – that is, not a reversed image – then the engraver was required to create the engraving in reverse of the original, so when it was printed it appeared in the same format as the original.

Engravers can create their own original artworks or they can copy artworks created by others, in which case they would be considered a copyist.

Artists sometimes employed engravers to make copies of their most successful artworks so the printed copies could be used to promote the artist’s body of work. Rubens was more than an artist. He was also a diplomat representing the Spanish Hapsburg court in Brussels, and visited numerous royal courts around Europe. During his travels to Paris, Madrid and London, and after diplomatic business had finished for the evening, he would have the opportunity to show monarchs and courtiers prints of his latest masterpieces to entice them to order a new commission.

Please share your journey to publication. The highs and lows. Any memorable moments?

The early years of my career focused on academic, corporate and magazine writing before I discovered my passion lay with writing fiction. I began writing my first novel in 2014, finished the first draft nine months later, and immediately realised it needed a huge amount of work.

I attended an Arvon writers’ residential course in Devon which opened my eyes to the benefits of being part of a writing community. Over the following years, I participated in several online writing courses, a second Arvon course this time in West Yorkshire, and made strong connections with fellow writers which have lasted to this day. Writing is a solitary pursuit, so it’s crucial for me to have a support network of trustworthy, like-minded people who provide honest feedback and much-needed encouragement.

After spending six years learning to write fiction and editing my manuscript, which became The Engraver’s Secret, it was finally of a suitable standard to submit to literary agents. I received numerous rejections from agents, who said my manuscript “showed promise but wasn’t for them”. I finally signed with my amazing literary agent in London in 2019. It was a surreal moment to receive her email saying that she loved my manuscript and would like to work with me to help get it published.

 A completed further structural edits before the manuscript was ready to submit to publishers. My book was translated into Dutch and published as De Graveur by a Belgian publisher, Horizon Publishing, as a paperback, e-book and audio book in February 2022. It was extremely gratifying to walk into bookshops in Belgium and the Netherlands and see my book for sale, even though my Dutch language skills weren’t good enough to read my book aloud in Dutch.

Finding an English-language publisher still proved challenging. To stay focused on my publishing dream, I reminded myself that my book was just one submission in numerous teetering piles. Someone would love it, but I needed to be patient and not take the rejections personally. Don’t give up became my mantra.

By mid 2022, when UK publishers had still shown little interest, despite my book having been translated and published in Dutch markets, my agent cast the net wider. I secured a second literary agent, this one in Melbourne, and my two agents worked together to find an Australian publisher. Within two months, they had secured the interest of two publishers, and I signed a two-book publishing deal with HarperCollins Australia. Again, it was an amazing experience to find people who believed in me and my story. 

Have you always wanted to be an author? What or who has been your greatest inspiration?

I dabbled with writing fiction when I was a teenager, and loved creative writing assignments at school. Although I had a Bachelor’s degree in history and fine art – during which I honed my research skills – I began working in local government then private companies. My work focused on public relations, media relations, marketing, and event management, which involved writing media releases, company reports and external publications. But I found corporate writing to be dry and matter-of-fact.

Soon after moving to Europe in 2008, I had several articles published in magazines based in the UK and for English-speaking audiences in the Netherlands. Although writing about antique shopping in Europe and life as an expat in Europe was more creative than corporate writing, it still wasn’t creative enough.

At the age of 40-something, when I sat down at my desk to begin jotting down an outline for a plot and I began writing about an art academic arriving in Antwerp, I realised that I had discovered my passion in life: to be a fiction writer and get my stories published.

Authors are my biggest inspiration. The authors (and their books) who have inspired me to develop my craft include: A.S. Byatt (Possession, 1990), Peter Høeg (Miss Smilla’s Feeling for Snow, 1992), Margaret Atwood (Alias Grace, 1996), Ann Patchett (Bel Canto, 2001) and Ian McEwan (Atonement, 2001). There are many nineteenth-century authors who have also inspired me, especially Jane Austen, Thomas Hardy, Evelyn Waugh and Daphne du Maurier.

Reading widely across all genres and styles provides me with inspiration and the impetus to continue developing my writing craft. Reading fiction can be comforting, inspiring and thought-provoking. It exercises my brain in the same way walking and yoga exercises my muscles. It introduces me to new concepts, broadens my perspective, and forces me to consider my views on different issues.

Name 4 favourite books you have read so far this year and what made them special?

I started off the new year with listening to Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver, which was heartbreaking, shocking and thought-provoking. I was amazed at Kingsolver’s ability to write about everyday people, but fill the story with powerful social and political themes, such as  exploitation, injustice and addiction.

I re-read Year of Wonders by Geraldine Brooks, which is set in an English village in 1666 that quarantines itself when the plague arrives, and it brought back memories of the recent Covid situation with quarantines, lockdowns and people dying. Very sobering themes throughout.

I’ve started listening to Restoration by Rose Tremain – haven’t finished it yet – which is a wonderful romp through the court of King Charless II and particular characters who have been banished from court and yearn to be returned to the king’s favour.

My favourite read for this year so far has been The Seven Skins of Esther Wilding by Holly Ringland, with the amazing character of Esther sharing her story of grief, loss, courage and transformation.

If you could go back in time to do research for a novel, where would you go and who would you want to meet? What three questions would you ask them?

I’d love to go back to the seventeenth century, specifically 1621 Antwerp, and meet with the engraver Lucas Vorsterman. I’d ask him:

a.     Why do you feel you should have been given the ownership of the engraving plates that you created, based on artworks by Rubens, and also given the right to make printed copies from those engraving plates?

b.     How did you feel when the law court decreed that Rubens owned the engraving plates and you had no ownership rights to them?

c.     If you had been given ownership of the engraving plates, what would you have done with them? E.g. would you have made printed copies from the plates and sold them?

Are you working on a new project and, if so, please share a little about it.

For my second novel, I’ve turned to the art, life and times of Symbolist painter Gustav Klimt and fin-de-siècle Vienna. The story focuses on two women with a linked past, both searching for where they belong in the world.

The story of Lily begins in the closing years of the nineteenth century in Vienna, when socio-political upheavals and the growth of Modernism cause everybody, from rulers to commoners, to question their place in the emerging new century. Lily’s story moves between Vienna and the tranquil lakes of the Salzkammergut region where peace becomes a distant memory as the horrors of the Great War and Spanish Flu epidemic take hold, spinning everyone’s life out of control.

Intertwined with Lily’s narrative is the story of Fenna, who lives in 1932 London. Exploring her past, fearful for her future, searching for her sense of identity and belonging, Fenna’s story moves from London to her birthplace of Amsterdam, then travels to Munich and finally Vienna. For Fenna, it is a gradual unravelling of her shared past with Lily and the artist Gustav Klimt.

My second novel will be published by HarperCollins Australia in 2025.

Huge congrats to Lisa on the release of her new novel! Thanks for being my guest author today.

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Thanks also to Lisa for the use of her photos for this article (except one attributed to Harry Fabel).

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